Why I love Yammer’s business model… and why it needs to change


The enterprise Twitter clone, Yammer, has a great business model that exploits the desire for grassroots social computing from employees and preys on the security fears of their employers.

The way it works is simple: any employee can sign up to Yammer for free. If they are the first to use their corporate email domain (e.g. acme.com) then they automatically create a private micro-blogging community for their organization. Any subsequent employee who signs up with the same email domain becomes a member of that private community. In fact, they disguise an “invite a colleague” recruitment feature by asking new users to provide the email addresses of people they work with (including their manager).

Even if 10,000 employees sign up, it doesn’t cost a cent. The desire for low-cost social computing from normal employees has been met. It’s a smart move on Yammer’s part, as these employees are unlikely to have the budgets required to pay for the service.

Obviously Yammer isn’t going to get rich doing this. So they’ve come up with a cunning ruse to open the corporate coffers. They’ve worked out the one thing that companies discovering these “unauthorised” communities will pay for: control and ownership. So all the security features (like IP restrictions, password complexity and session management) are “paid for” features that cost the company $1 per user per month. At this point the employer also owns all the updates posted by employees to Yammer. Effectively Yammer is holding employers to ransom: “Your employees are using our system, and we want $1 a month per user to give you control and ownership of the space.”

And that’s why their business model has to change.

Firstly, I doubt that a company with 1,000 employees on Yammer - let alone 10,000 - is going to pay $1 per user a month for this service. Sooner or later Yammer is going to have to introduce volume-based pricing and/or a behind-the-firewall version of Yammer for a one-off fee.

Secondly, the majority of those employees who sign up for Yammer do so out of curiosity or because they’ve received one of the cunningly disguised invitations. Yet the employer still has to pay $1 a month for every member, not just the active ones. I’d like to see Yammer charging based on “active” usage, not total membership.

Thirdly, once they do start paying, the Yammer business model actually discourages companies from encouraging adoption. Let’s say there are 30 members of a Yammer community when the company takes control - that’s $30 a month. It’s in the company’s financial interests to limit the rate of further adoption. If numbers rose to 1,000 say, a hike of $30 to $1,000 would take a lot of explaining to most bean-counters. It will inevitably lead to internal cross-charging for most companies, which will further limit adoption and value. Yammer needs to let companies to put a limit on the number of users in order to limit their monthly budgets.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Yammer and I congratulate them on a very clever business model. But they need to be very careful not to bite the only hand that feeds them.

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Niall, great points, I’m banking on the fact that people want an on-premise solution. http://www.broadcastr.net, is an enterprise micro-blogging platform that you can check out in the cloud then purchase as a VM, the vm includes all the cloud test data. Additionally, once in house it will integrate with your existing directory authentication systems for easy of use Single Sign On.

i dare to disagree.

even if 1,000 people sign up for two years, the cost, at $1 per user per month, won’t top $25k - the price it would likely cost in blood sweat and tears for an agency to implement a similar system from scratch.

plus it would require no up front costs and be amortized over those two years (by which time yammer will be just a memory) and require no outside consultants to start turf wars with the client’s internal IT team.

i think that an integrated passive messaging system will be a vital part of the intranet in years to come but for those who want to experiment, in today’s economic climate, $1 per user per month for most organizations is going to be much easier to swallow that $24/user as an upfront cost.

ed

Thanks for the post Niall. As you suggest, Yammer does offer volume-based pricing for large networks, upon request. This is disclosed on our Claim Your Network page here:

https://www.yammer.com/company/claim

Second, the admins of claimed networks can always remove inactive people, if they choose to. The problem with that is that many people use Yammer for information discovery, which can be accomplished without posting a single message. What ends up happening as the network becomes more active is that essentially a knowledge base is created. That knowledge base is searchable enabling people, even one’s that don’t post messages, to discover information. That is extremely valuable. You do make some good points that we are still exploring though. Once again thanks for the post and if you have any questions, comments or concerns please do not hesitate to let us know. We actually encourage the feedback.

Thanks,

Keith
The Yammer Team

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Yancy - thanks for the pitch.

Ed - disagree away. Even so, that only addresses the pricing issue. Time will tell if orgs will stomach $1 per user per month.

Keith - thanks for stopping by. I have a different definition of “active” as I appreciate the vast majority are listening rather than contributing. But for companies to have to pay for users who don’t even log in during the month? To me, that’s a bit much. Is there a way for the admin to see who hasn’t logged in during the last month so they can be removed?

@Niall - Yammer offers multiple ways to post and receive messages (iPhone app, Blackberry app, SMS, Desktop app, IM, Email, Web), which you can read about here:

http://blog.yammer.com/blog/2008/10/7-ways-to-send-and-receive-yammer-updates.html

Over half of our users use the Desktop Application. Therefore, it is hard to say who is using Yammer, based on who logged into the Web client. We would like to offer non active user information to companies, but we don’t believe that the number of messages posted is the right way to do so, and tracking log in is too hard with all the different ways to post and receive updates. Any other suggestions to determine who is really using Yammer and who isn’t?

@Keith. I’m not convinced that “tracking log in is too hard”. The fact that you know that half your users use the desktop application shows that you do actually capture that data. And if you’re not capturing this data, then that should be a huge red flag to any company paying for your service (I wouldn’t recommend saying “tracking log in is too hard” to your clients!).

For me, Login = Usage = Activity. It shouldn’t be that difficult for you to know how many users have logged in once during a specific time period (e.g. a month) and then charge based on active usage. All the different methods of accessing Yammer are all trackable as you are authenticating the users each time.

Right. Nothing is ever too hard. Tracking who has installed an application is something we can easily do now, because we use OAuth. As you suggest, we are developing a way to track how often people log in to the applications. Overall though it should help sell companies on how much its employees are actually using the Yammer, making them more comfortable to pay for it. Per your example, do you consider someone logging in once per month an active user? We appreciate your feedback and suggestions.

Thanks,

Keith
The Yammer Team

Yep - that’s good enough for me.

What a lovely, civil conversation. I’m not sure who is getting most out of it. Probably Yammer.
I congratulate Yammer for putting something out there and not saying “this is how people should use it.” The challenge for small businesses will of course be to see how they can best use it without paying at all.
Larger companies can afford to point out to Yammer and to their employees that the business owns their email addresses and domain names. I sense that men in wigs may be instructed.
Meanwhile I can’t wait for some of my colleagues to get in so that we can start to play with Yammer.
/df

I suppose Yammer could sell some other services, in parallel to the cost-per-user. My company may not be ready to commit to unpredictable cost (don’t know how many users we’d have 6 months from now), but I would definitely pay for a la carte services, regardless of number of users, such as:
- customized banner (100$/year, flat cost?)
- announcement zone where I can post sticky messages (100$/year?)
- usage metrics (10$ per report per month for a monthly report?)

There are probably dozens of products, services you could sell that are not based on number of users.